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Unfair 2.13 subscription king of thieves fund funds fund finances

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#1 phantom darkrai 456

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:38 PM

So i updated my king of thieves account,

and the 1st thing i notice is the subscription offer

now this is Really unfair becuase this makes the game a more p2w than skill game,

 

this is my math behind it

 

(nothing complicated)

 

i got most of my upgrade evidence from youtube and this link http://kingofthieves...Lock_Pick_Speed

 

so,

 

66keys max

36keys per hour (kph) max

 

66x10=660keys max

 

36kph x 10=360kph = 180 keys per 1/2 hour = 90 keys per 15 mins <- thats already OP, then if you have MAX ritual beserker, then you use these keys to skip 300 seconds (5 mins) of the ritual, if you have MAX lock pick thing (the thing which cost tears) then playing for 3+ straight hours you can merge those massive gems, whilst nobody can raid them, and the owner of the dungeon can raid bigger gems than the ones hes ( 2 hr ) merging

 

 

 

some could say "but you need skill to get the gems"

 

well not really,

 

you could do the long way or the REALLY LONG AND EXPENSIVE WAY (more efficient)

 

 

the long way is gem mines to get super big gems, cause even 50 deaths before success will -5 mins from ritual time

 

and the 2nd way is just to get Max revitalising heartbeat

 

 

please reply your thoughts,

 

i understand critism just as much as i understand agreement

and would prefer if you were truthful in replying.

 

 

 

 

 

Signed; a just thief

 

 

 

except thieves arent just


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#2 Skydancer

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:43 PM

Actually the situation is much worse than what you described, since I can literally raid forever ( I always level up before I deplete the 660keys).

It's unfair to f2p players, but it gives the possibility to reach rainbowunicorn's wallet level with only 5euros/month. All in all, I'll be honest, I like it.

Note: these are the first 5euros I spent in 1 year and half of playing.


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#3 phantom darkrai 456

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:46 PM

Actually the situation is much worse than what you described, since I can literally raid forever ( I always level up before I deplete the 660keys).

It's unfair to f2p players, but it gives the possibility to reach rainbowunicorn's wallet level with only 5euros/month. All in all, I'll be honest, I like it.

Note: these are the first 5euros I spent in 1 year and half of playing.

i agree, although this subscription doesnt give gems,

it gives an unfairly high advantage to those free players (me)


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#4 Andrew2

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 10:24 PM

Well, you can't raid forever......I tried and hit the dreaded TIME LIMIT........it locked me out for 3-hours.



#5 Heinz

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:26 AM

Agreed. Every player who bought the subscription will have a massive advantage against players who didn't. No chance against superior players. If you have only 66 key in total you can raid maybe 5 bases if you are lucky but than its over or you have to spend a lot of time in watching ads which gives you 10 keys per ad. Just to make it clear: A player who bought subscription can get 100 keys within only 30 secounds for one ad. A non-subscription player have to pay 9 orbs for 66 keys.

Absolutely game breaker and like you said unfair. But I can't judge people who bought it. Everyone who is willing to pay money will do it especially because it's almost free if you compare it to the advantages it gives you. Not to mention the tears and costumes ...

Edited by Heinz, 07 August 2016 - 12:27 AM.


#6 Cyr

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 02:10 AM

If you think the game was ever fair than you're missing something buddy. I've purchased the membership and nothing really changed in my gameplay, I can just raid more.


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Posted 07 August 2016 - 02:20 AM

Agreed. Every player who bought the subscription will have a massive advantage against players who didn't. No chance against superior players. If you have only 66 key in total you can raid maybe 5 bases if you are lucky but than its over or you have to spend a lot of time in watching ads which gives you 10 keys per ad. Just to make it clear: A player who bought subscription can get 100 keys within only 30 secounds for one ad. A non-subscription player have to pay 9 orbs for 66 keys.

Absolutely game breaker and like you said unfair. But I can't judge people who bought it. Everyone who is willing to pay money will do it especially because it's almost free if you compare it to the advantages it gives you. Not to mention the tears and costumes ...

If you feel there's such a disadvantage, then buy the damn subscription. It's actually NOT unfair, you're just unwilling to level the playing field.



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#8 Kutl4

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 08:15 AM

If you feel there's such a disadvantage, then buy the damn subscription. It's actually NOT unfair, you're just unwilling to level the playing field.

Thats a weird thing to say, level the playing field? KoT is branded as a F2P game, now I don't mind people buying orbs or whatever they buy cause it doesn't make a big difference in the playstyle of the game, but this is giving way too big advantage to some people over the others, it ruins the balance of the game, and thats important in a F2P game. Again this is just my opinion.

#9 phantom darkrai 456

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 08:57 AM

If you feel there's such a disadvantage, then buy the damn subscription. It's actually NOT unfair, you're just unwilling to level the playing field

so your saying that just pay to have a chance to win? excatly P2W


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#10 phantom darkrai 456

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 09:00 AM

Well, you can't raid forever......I tried and hit the dreaded TIME LIMIT........it locked me out for 3-hours.

i believe that was to stop people from tapping for 12 hours straight when merging a gem,

 

however it makes it fair for that reason the player who DO pay, are not able to use it to the fullest


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Posted 07 August 2016 - 01:33 PM

so your saying that just pay to have a chance to win? excatly P2W

Do you deny that you have to pay to win? The only counterexample there is Oliver. It IS a P2W game. Don't deny that,



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#12 phantom darkrai 456

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 01:39 PM

Do you deny that you have to pay to win? The only counterexample there is Oliver. It IS a P2W game. Don't deny that,

it wasnt until the game got the subscription update,

 

which is WHY im trying to stress how unfair it is


Edited by phantom darkrai 456, 07 August 2016 - 01:54 PM.

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#13 DJBazz

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 06:36 PM

Actually the situation is much worse than what you described, since I can literally raid forever ( I always level up before I deplete the 660keys).
It's unfair to f2p players, but it gives the possibility to reach rainbowunicorn's wallet level with only 5euros/month. All in all, I'll be honest, I like it.
Note: these are the first 5euros I spent in 1 year and half of playing.

Exactly this is the reason why they added the time limit.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 07:06 PM

This thread is getting really salty IMO
lets just stop complaining for now and move on to another topic :) :D

#15 phantom darkrai 456

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 07:20 PM

yeah, sure, tell dan to lock it then ( i mean it) otherwise itll be used to gain posts


Edited by phantom darkrai 456, 07 August 2016 - 07:22 PM.

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#16 SweetMint

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 07:21 PM

Lock please watcher ^_^

#17 phantom darkrai 456

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 07:24 PM

ill pm dan now


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